I Got Kicked Off (Banned) From The RON PAUL Forum -- The Daily Paul(dot)com

Let me explain, if I may:
I'm a longtime registered Republican, not a happy camper, not since the days of daddy Bush, certainly not content since the 'selection' of GWB -- but nevertheless a longtime registered Republican who in the last general election voted entirely Democrat.

Thinking that RON PAUL was going to save the day as regards the corruption (all the crap) that has over-flowed the toilet in Washington, DC -- I seriously gave thought to voting for the man this coming election.

I've given monthly financial support to his campaign; I was an active forum member. Seems that a suspicion (a lasting concern that just didn't have a good enough answer) was hearing RP say that he did not believe 9/11 to be an inside job, that, coupled with the equally confused wonderment as to WHY HE REFUSES to support impeachment hearings for dick(head)CHENEY and for GWB -- well, it finally made itself all very clear to me yesterday:

I was kicked off their forum because I was presenting facts regarding 9/11 being an inside job. I wrote the main guy in charge of the forum a simple inquiry regarding their decision and he confirmed that their forum was NOT for discussing 9/11 truths, only for supporting RP. I wrote him back and suggested he remove the '9/11' from that statement, THAT I would THEN have a better understanding of where they are all 'truly' coming from, i.e., they DO NOT wish to discuss TRUTH period. Not any kind of truth.

-- No more $$ from me, that's for sure; no voting for the guy this year. I can't and consider myself a good American.

Damn I wish DENNIS KUCINICH was back in play.

As it is looks like I won't vote at all this time around; certainly not for MCCAIN, certainly not for HBILLARY (and that's not a typo) -- perhaps for OBAMA if the gangsters operating this election process allow his name on the ballot.

Hope you understand my anger and my confusion. Not asking for compassion just simple understanding -- we live in a confused world and it remains so until our eyes 'pop' open more and more and we find ourself AWAKE to the truths that surround us. It seems to take me a little longer than most people ;-)

My $.02

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Think Progress did the same thing a while ago...

and I stopped viewing there. We had a huge debate about it with Faiz ad he even emailed me a few times about it.

At one point he did allow a Sybil Edmunds thread up, but even that got scrubbed out.

These "gatekeeper" sites don't like discussion of anything that really threatens to trash the entire system; they just want to focus on McCain or Bush or something that isn't controversial in nature.

On the show last night that David hosts, he had a guy on there talking about how the elections have been hacked and that the politicians are showing a new found distain for all of us outside the system becasue they no longer really have to be "voted" back into office.

Well that guy can't get on MSM outlets anymore like he used to.

They don't want to address the fundamental issues out there that could really shake up this system: impeachment, 9/11, Friedman Savage Capitalism, globalization, NAU, ect.

You should check out my site.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/

Thanks For That Website Link // It Looks Very Interesting

cheney

I'll place it in my FAVORITES FOLDER and spend some more time there and check things out // what I saw at a quick glance things look like my kind of world.

What you said about others exercising censorship (not your exact words but believe that's what you meant) seems pretty widespread to me. Here's my experiences so far to-date:

Loose Change Forum -- The forum management got 'ticked off' at infighting among Moderators so he closed up and went home. Was actually a good place to exchange ideas, too bad management was so sensitive and childish. Thousands suddenly w/o a forum.

The Ron Paul Forum -- Banned because I believed 'falsely' that truth was welcome for discussion there. As I've said -- a BIG MISTAKE thinking that.

Military Forum -- I was banned because they thought me too verbal as regards our government's involvement in 9/11 and the unjust war that followed. Heck of it is I'm a 26-year active duty enlisted soldier (retired as a Master Sergeant back in 1990) and they found disgust with me because I don't support the war, called me a troll constantly. I was just trying to educate others as to how I see things.

Alex Jones Forum -- Well, banned there too, basically for same reasons as above. And I was a Global Moderator at that forum at its conception, didn't matter much since I bumped heads with another Mod (and his buddy that managed the forum) as both were avid RON PAUL fans. Suppose me questioning WHY RON PAUL didn't support impeachment proceedings and why he would say he didn't believe 'a rogue element' of our government was involved in 9/11 led them to show me the doorway out, chucked me overboard so to speak. I was happy when they did.

Pilots For 9/11 Truth Forum -- In good standing last time I checked. I just haven't visited there in months // I'm not a pilot for one thing.

After Downing Street -- We'll see how things go here. I do find the news reports fair and the exchanges of thought interesting (for most part). Honestly hated to see what happened to DENNIS KUCINICH (his Presidential run) right after the death of his brother. I really do believe DENNIS KUCINICH would prove to be one of our best ever Presidents if only given the chance to prove himself. Of course first things first -- a pair playing field and an unbiased MSM (mainstream media, complicit as they certainly are) // which ain't gonna happen anytime soon, so it appears.

-- Again, I'll spend some time checking out your website. Thanks for the link.
Jerry

Try these...

9/11 blogger

http://911blogger.com/

architects and engineers for 9/11 truth

http://www.ae911truth.org/

oil empire

http://www.oilempire.us/index.html

scholars for 9/11 truth and justice

http://stj911.org/

there are some of the sites that have forums for discussion and exchange of information. and they don't really care to much about the ron paul revolution one way or the other. They care about investigations into that day, and pretty much nothing else.

Nice chatting with you. Good luck on the search.

Banned

I got banned from Peacecandidates.com for removing pro-war candidates from the peace candidates list.

I was kicked from a Paul meetup group...

For responding to some of the ludacris comments being posted by some of their members about Democratic candidates. Aparently they are fond of disinformation and refused to allow anyone in who professed that they'd vote for a Democrat.

Understand What You Say & Agree With You

cheney

I saw this happening quite frequently. They hated DENNIS KUCINICH for reason that he wanted to impeach the thugs now in control. Why they would think that bad, I just couldn't get it in my head. They rally together on bashing OBAMA -- another matter I find I disagreed with them on, I like OBAMA. Of course most of us all agreed that CLINTON and MCCAIN was wrong for the country. Our reasons were probably different however.

I posted on the RP Forum many items that I found here in the ADS -- news article, videos, etc. I did that because I respect this ADS site as knowledgeable and generally fair all the way around. Much more professional and 'adult' than the poor Ron Paul site seems to be. And that might be a big part of their problem -- lots of 'young people' naive people controlling what is said and done over there. Not that that's automatically a bad thing -- but it does lend itself to problems nevertheless.

What we are seeing, IMO...

...is a kind of almost religous fervor being extended to the political divide in our party and in this country altogether.

People are rabidly attacking anyone that they think may cost their candidate the election.

I remember it was bad in 2000 and even worse in 2004, but this, after 7 years of criminal regime, this is completely different.

Last night on David's show they talked about how there was a culture of, what I can only call, partisan fundamentalism, growing in this country.

But they only talked about it being on the republican side. It is clearly developing on both.

There are partisan zeolots out there that refuse to look at anything other than what is important to advance their candidates cause. And they will attack anyone... anyone who asks them to look at the solution in any other way.

Well stated and very accurate WIlly

The political party I belong to is the entire body politic of the United States of America and our Constitution that I support without bias which neither states or implies any allegiance with any other socalled organized political party.

Sorry Obama is part of the problem

Sorry but obama is part of the same elite as hillary and Mccain and both parties are bad for this country, time to vote for a third party.

and Obama believe it or not is a CFR and it's on chicago of council global affairs (different name, same goal).

Thank God Ron Paul's a senator again, he may have lost in 2008, but his revolution will be around forever.

I Understand But Only Partially Agree -- Here's Why

cheney

First of all to the Poster that suggested a THIRD PARTY -- That's a damn great idea. Kinda like the idea where we are supposed to have right now a second political party to side with, one side or the other, but a two-party political that is in REALITY one political party neither truly Republican nor truly Democrat. Not sure what the hell it is other than NOT TWO anymore. So the idea of a THIRD PARTY actually would give us that choice back that secretly and quietly was taken away from us and yet many don't have a clue to this being the case. Sad reality it is.

Now to you -- The RON PAUL possibility was a good one, a split within that same mutated political system I mention above -- His issues (which I am quite familiar with thank you) did present a choice. Unfortuantely by him not listening to many of his own supporters (and that was form into a THIRD POLITICAL PARTY // Really a second party, considering) He has become a loss to what might have been. He stood for real change (just bringing back the troops and staying out of future foreign entanglements was a unique idea not being given serious consideration by others) // but in order to have been a success he should have split away from the GOP 'lost' mentality and became his own man.

I had hoped that he and KUCINICH would band together and form that THIRD PARTY -- both stand separate from the corrupt system as is.

As to OBAMA -- I'm not so sure about him yet. Most likely will vote for him if he gets that far. Hope he does. The fact that he has attracted the wrath of the power now in control, the fact that HBILLARY (whom I will never vote for) has given OBAMA a difficult time MEANS SOMETHING, or it should to all of us watching and listening. They obviously consider him to be an irritant, an outsider -- and not because he's black, but because he stands in the way of the present incumbent (and his inner criminal support group) to be freely handed back that control should one of their pick get 'selected'. The control that MCCAIN and/or HBILLARY will certainly give them -- neither are qualified for the position they seek. And neither was ol' GWB -- the proof is in the taste test. Those TWO are poison to this once wonderful land we love.

Take a look at this interesting video and see what I mean:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=209842906347732903

My $.02

But Obama is as dangerous

Obama is DLC and also CFR & AIPAC and the most dangerous, if he was really against the war like he says he is, then why did he fund this illegal war?
Why does he support this illegal immigration mess and the north american union.

and he wants to attack pakistan, please, that is not a peace candidate, that's a war candidate, don't be fooled

Not to mention the patriot act which is unconstitutional.

Go to http://www.votersforpeace.us
and only vote for peace candidates, who not only oppose the iraq war but future wars of aggression.

And Obama is not qualified to be president of the united states either, I Want peace and prosperity, no more wars, true immigration reform.

Thank God Ron Paul's a senator again, he may have lost in 2008, but his revolution will be around forever.

Excuse Me But You're Mistaken

cheney

RON PAUL isn't a Senator (again) -- He's a Congressman from the House of Representatives NOT the Senate. And that again part is kind of misleading anyway -- His District in Texas just reelected him to Congress without a break in his position there. A Congressman NOT a Senator // They have separate functions, as I would assume you know and just simply mis-spoke. But not like HBILLARY mis-spoke last week when she got caught lying about that Bosnia war story of hers // What a joke she is, huh.

i.e., OBAMA -- Don't be so hard on the guy. He's not running for Glorious Leader of any Nazi Reenstatement (now MCCAIN & HBILLARY might be said to be that) // OBAMA is trying to be President of our nation and those who are presently in power (the real bad guys) they don't want him there in that role either. Listen to the MSM on this one -- the truth is in what they say, they don't like the guy. Like you don't apparently want him there also. Makes me wonder who else might be on 'their side' if saying the same things as you -- and WHO? The bad guys -- That's who.

Confused is one thing (like in the mis-speak about House Rep. vs. Senator) but to start taking the side of the 'bad guys' regarding OBAMA -- Perhaps you might wanna step back and take a long breath and THINK. No offense to you intended -- Just trying to break you from the herd mentality there forum friend. You're partly there already if you can understand the 'bad guys' do exist and that's why you've leaned towards supporting RP.

But at the same time realize that in order to help 'possibly' swing any election perhaps you should be concentrating on who among the herd is truly bad and who is truly got a chance. Nobody is perfect. RP seems now lost in this Presidential Race thanks to MSM complicity (and maybe even voter fraud to some degree) -- but he's no longer a good horse in this 'race' since he moved from first to last place. Even he knows that himself.

If you keep returning to that window and placing bets on a horse that has slipped from first to last place -- well, that may not be such a wise move. Perhaps rethinking might not be a bad idea. Don't expect you to agree with that logic of mine, but at least understand my remarks to be a friendly suggestion to step back and allow yourself the possibility to consider WHY(??) the powers to be (the true bad guys) don't want OBAMA in the driver's seat; maybe they have what they consider a damn good reason // Mainly because he's not part of their inner-circle. That's a good thing in his favor, I think. And in ours.

Obama is a globalist

He's just as horrible as hitlery & McLame.

He will not bring change to washington, he is more of the same.

Thank God Ron Paul's a senator again, he may have lost in 2008, but his revolution will be around forever.

I REALLY FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE!

First they came for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up, because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then

NO CANDIDATE

I was kicked off their forum because I was presenting facts regarding 9/11 being an inside job.
TO jbrid1138 ,

Why in the world would any presidential candidate say that 911 was an inside job?
I would like to see you run for any office on that platform. There are not very many people that believe that story. That would be political suicide. I can not believe that you would not vote for him because of this...grow up!

"There are not very many

"There are not very many people that believe that story."

Oh, well then, it can't be true if everyone doesn't believe it.

" I can not believe that you would not vote for him because of this..."

That's not what he said.

Not Many People (You Say) // Try This On For Size

cheney

According to this:
http://www.scrippsnews.com/911poll
***extract***
(2006)
More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

etc., etc.
_____________
Based upon last Census here in the USA we had over 300 MILLION citizens running around loose. You do the simple math and see if you come up with the same number I do, i.e., more than 1/3 (the poll) translates to more than 100 MILLION suspect that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks etc., etc.

And YOU don't think that's a BIG NUMBER? Damn forum friend, seems pretty big to me. There's another poll shown here:
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060522022041421
that clearly indicates that Over 70 Million Voting Age Americans Support New 9/11 Investigation.

Again another BIG NUMBER of folks thinking that perhaps something isn't quite as the official narrative would have us believe, so much so that they think a new investigation might not be such a bad idea. I'm in that group. Actually I'm in both of those groups (above).

As to political suicide // my comments were not my own exactly, they were extracts of various matters (from scholars, engineers, etc) pertaining to 9/11 and that is what got me 'booted off' the forum. The gatekeeper (not RON PAUL himself) didn't like the TRUTH being discussed on his forum, nothing more, nothing less than that -- period. RON PAUL knows 9/11 is a government cover up // Here I'll prove it to YOU right now in this video of him (pay attention at about 40 seconds into the tape):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMTyga2NvCc

What troubles me still is how the MSM nut jobs out there working their psyops game have tried to tie RP's run for President with what they consider to be a wacko 9/11 truth movement. Yeah like they could really care about either -- they went out of their way to keep the man out of sight, out of mind for a damn good reason // He wasn't their choice. They don't like him and they don't like us 'truthers' for a damn good reason -- they don't like the TRUTH.

jbrid. please check this out.

This is one of the best articles I have put together on reasons for a new investigation.

It is based on "14 Characteristics of a Controled Demoliton" as well as investigations into the set up of 9/11.

I hope you like it and find it useful.

http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2007/08/29/the-smoking-gun-is-a-mushroom...

"the Smoking Gun IS a Mushroom Cloud"... just not the one Condi was lying about.

I'll Certainly Check It Out -- Thanks WILLY

cheney

I'm a fan of David Ray Griffin, own a number of his books on the subject of 9/11. He too has outlined the number of factors seen in the destruction of the World Trade Center and what are considered 'controlled demolition' factors, factors that are common to both and ONLY both meaning they are NOT SEEN in the combinations listed outside of controlled demolitions; and the sad sick truth of it all is they ALL appear in the WTC disaster without exception.

Here's a little something to share with everyone this morning:
The president of a family owned company responsible for over 7000 worldwide legal controlled demolitions, a company that holds word records, that has an extremely close working relationship with our government primarily because of their level of expertise (name of the company: Controlled Demolitions Inc -- CDI; based in Phoenix, Maryland) said this in TWO separate 'public' interviews (one a month or two after 9/11, the other a couple of years later) --

He claimed HE KNEW within 'a nanosecond' after the second airplane struck that those towers were coming down, and in which order. I find that absolutely amazing that a TRUE EXPERT as this would claim to have known 'something' was gonna happen that had NEVER BEFORE in history ever happened, i.e., a high rise steel framed structure falling because of fire, or an airplane collision. If anyone should be aware of this, this guy should. I mean take somebody like me that can't walk and chew gum is one thing BUT A TRUE DEMOLITIONS EXPERT as this claiming he knew within 'a nanosecond' something that he personally himself had never seen -- yet knew as stated and knew in which order they would fall.

-- Now that's creepy as hell.

His one such 'awareness' is stated here in this article:
Note please he claims he was so concerned that he tried to notify the Mayor's Office in WTC7 (GIULIANI) -- BUT TO NO AVAIL -- he wanted to pull the rescue teams away from the buildings // but what if he had been wrong? He would then have been directly or indirectly responsible for deaths that might have otherwise been prevented. Of course he was right (surprisingly right under the circumstances of never happening before in history) // and that telephone call // something that GIULIANI claims he got from some unknown -- something that was never pressured by the 9/11 Commission as far as any of us know. Maybe this is the guy that got through after all:
http://www.booknoise.net/johnseabrook/stories/technology/tower/index.htm...
The Tower Builder
Why did the World Trade Center buildings fall down when they did?
From The New Yorker, by John Seabrook
November 19, 2001

***extract***
Among the dozens of people I have spoken to recently who are experts in the construction of tall buildings (and many of whom witnessed the events of September 11th as they unfolded), only one said that he knew immediately, upon learning, from TV, of the planes' hitting the buildings, that the towers were going to fall. This was Mark Loizeaux, the president of Controlled Demolition Incorporated, a Maryland-based family business that specializes in reducing tall buildings to manageable pieces of rubble. "Within a nanosecond," he told me. "I said, 'It's coming down. And the second tower will fall first, because it was hit lower down.'
***
"I thought, Somebody's got to tell the Fire Department to get out of there," Loizeaux told me. "I picked up the phone, dialled 411, got the number, and tried it--busy. So I called the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management"--which was in 7 World Trade. "All circuits were busy. I couldn't get through."

-- Just something MORE to think about.

Check out this interview in the USNEWS&WORLD REPORT, 2003:
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/030630/30unbuild_2.htm

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