DISCUSSIONS RELATIVE TO THE MISCONDUCT OF ISRAEL

Now, in reality, this is not actually a place to vent real hatred for any religious group.

The actual objective here is discussions relitive to the misconduct of the government of ISRAEL, on one side, and to give those with an opposong view an opportunity to rebute, therefore defend ISRAEL.

I want it understood, that myself as well as others will be submitting statements and information relitive to what we feel is serious misconduct, even criminal conduct commited by the government of ISRAEL, this is in no way intended to be construde as any type of hatred for the jewish people living in ISRAEL, or else where. But on the otherhand, i welcome any dessenting view to mine to be debated here and i will try my best, within the limits to my intellectual ability, to give you a a lively debate.

Finally, I want to make it perfectly clear this is no place for NEO-NAZIS or SKINHEADS.

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Good work, Scott...

We now have our own little corner, where *this* topic is *our* topic and nobody else will be bothered.

:)

I accept my assignment with humilty and enthusiasm, Sir!

To address your lead question - Ignorance is knowing nothing about (or having faulty knowledge of) a subject. It's not a pejorative - it's a description. If I'm watching some of those minor Olympic sports and I don't know what the heck is going on then I'm ignorant. Not of everything, just of the subject in question. I'm not ignorant of the basketball part of the games since I follow the NBA, know the players, know the NBA rules; otoh, I knew very little about the players/teams from other countries and not much of the international rules, so I'm working on that part of my ignorance by learning what I didn't know.

So you are ignorant about the definition of anti-semite - no big deal and it doesn't reflect badly on you; just spend a few minutes on google and you'll be up to speed. Google and to a lesser extent, Wikipedia, are my old friends. :)

But logically it does not follow when you protest that you can't be an anti-semite since you don't know what a semite is. You're mistaking not knowing a word, an abstract description, for a behavior that you can perform completely independently from any knowledge of the word that defines the behavior.

I could hate Samoans without knowing the word for that hatred (there isn't one afaik) or even knowing the word Samoan. Words are abstractions, hate is a visceral and real emotion with real-world consequences either to the object or to you or both.

Don't we assume, in fact, that racism is the result of people's ignorance? That if we just knew each other better we could all get along.

Well, not actually, there are plenty of historical examples of different peoples living together in peace, then something sets them off and they're at each other's throats. Human nature trumps utopian theory every time.

Btw, brown shirts and commies didn't exactly get along the last time they were put together, did they? LOL

MIKE S

I was going to insert Archie Bunkers word PINKO but never learned what a pinko was

Pinko is...

..."a derogatory term for a person regarded as sympathetic to Communism, though not necessarily a Communist Party member. The term has its origins in the notion that pink is a lighter shade of red, the color associated with communism; thus pink could be thought of as a "lighter form of communism" promoted by mere supporters of socialism who weren't, themselves, "card-carrying" communists." (wiki)

:)

TO MIKE, ON THE DEFINATION OF PINKO

And i always assumed it was an Archie Bunker exclusive.

Me

Simply a watered down red.

Zionists and Neocons ARE the brown-shirts this time around

Since you are so "sympathetic" towards Zionists and Neocons, that pretty much makes you an ANTI-peace activist. So you are wasting yours and our time here with your false whining. MikeS, we are very savvy here, and know a phoney when we see one. You have been outted. This site is NOT about "Jews". This site is about confronting Israel with its predispostion to plot proxy wars by ABUSING American and Coalition soldiers for criminal pre-emptive wars. If you cannot face the truth, you do not belong here.

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

Btw, Scott, you may notice I

Btw, Scott, you may notice I rarely use the term 'anti-semitism'.

First of all, some people immediately start screaming that "you always call anti-Israelis, pardon me 'anti-Zionists', anti-semites". So to spare their feelings and short circuit the outrage and because I don't like euphemisms very much, I go for the real, barebones meaning which is "Jew hatred".

Americans, being generally non-confrontational, have come to prefer softer words for harsh concepts, eg saying 'racial discrimination' instead of just stating the reality, which is hatred of black people.

In this case - anti-semitism - I prefer to just state the obvious.

anti-Semitic is always used to have an accusatory manner to

....humiliate other than. Other than you, other than them. Yet why is it that as the ship sails from Gaza today, I received a report from a Physician on the ship about the state of the Palestinians health, you know darn well Israelis and the Arabic persons native to what used to be Palestine share Haplogroup, J1 regardless of Muslim, Christian or Jew Palestinian, playing the wordsmith in order to condescend allows you a sense of superiority. It is not a pleasant trait, it is something short men tend to do.
Please do not try to say these bombs and those terrorists, 700 Palestinians to 7 Israelis, yet life is life and as such should be held as sacrosanct. Not the anti-choice ideologic manner of life, us and alive NOW.
It is what it is, me I'm a mutt, my 31 yr old daughter Afrocentric Cuban/mutt, 19 year old Turkish/mutt. This is the melting pot, it was before the Murderer.

SCOTT. YOU HAVE A PHONE CALL!

IS NANCY!

She wants to tell you that SEMITC have to do with the jews "Promissed Land".

For more detail go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitic

She's waiting for you......

IS THAT ALL SHE WANTS TO TELL ME??

Cause i got sometum for her..............

OK. SCOTT

I 'LL let her know that you have the "PROMISSED SOMETUM" for her!!

She is like butler...

LOL

OK CHIP ILL BEHAVE

I SEE SOMETHIN GOT DELETED SO ILL BEHAVE

I thought that was mine, Scott...

not that I keep track of every word I write or anything...

But I thought I posted a request for jlennon to bring his "Top Ten Reasons Why MikeS Is Wrong" challenge over here.

:0

I thought inviting people to refute me might serve the common good of fostering civil debate.

jlennon, that is an excellent...

source for understanding anti-semitism. Scott, the wiki article looks, on just a quick skim, like it will give you the basics that you appear to want to know.

This paragraph jumped out at me:

"Bernard Lewis defines antisemitism as a special case of prejudice, hatred, or persecution directed against people who are in some way different from the rest. According to Lewis, antisemitism is marked by two distinct features: Jews are judged according to a standard different from that applied to others, and they are accused of "cosmic evil." Thus, "it is perfectly possible to hate and even to persecute Jews without necessarily being anti-Semitic" unless this hatred or persecution displays one of the two features specific to antisemitism."

In the section on 'Islam and antisemitism', the idea is repeated and expanded to discuss modern day conflicts: "According to Bernard Lewis, antisemitism is marked by two distinct features: Jews are judged according to a standard different from that applied to others, and they are accused of "cosmic evil." [79] For Lewis, from the late nineteenth century, movements appear among Muslims of which for the first time one can legitimately use the term anti-semitic." Follows with an historical timeline.

I'm not a fan of (and usually don't read) huge cuts&paste, prefering to state things in my own words and hear others ideas in their words, but I think those two paragraphs sum the subject up pretty well even if you don't read the rest of the wiki article.

And jlennon, please warn me next before before you sear into my mind images of Nancy and Scott together. LOL

Anti-Semite is "old hat", haven't you heard?

Anti-American and Anti-Iraqi is where its at now! Being a Zionist Neocon Troll is a fulltime job , isn't it MikeS, and all about turning the conversation 180 degrees away from the REAL ISSUES of the Iraq Holocaust, and the suffering of American Soldiers and their families, not to mention the Coalition soldiers and their families who are rarely mentioned.

Reminder, NOT ONE ISRAELI SOLDIER HAS DIED IN ISRAEL'S PROXY WAR , NOT A ONE!!!

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

CONGRATSULATIONS MIKE

Looks like you been promoted.

Indeed, I have Scott!

I've gone from being "You Monster" to "dis-info specialist" to my current fulltime position (unpaid, unfortunately - I could use the money to supplement my meager retirement check) of "Zionist Neocon Troll".

For all you people who defended me as not being a troll - Scott and Johnathan - your good words were in vain, I need this promotion!

ZNT has a nice zippy feel to it and will fit nicely on my name tag, a lot better than boring Mike S.

So you found some fishin' buddies... very "clever" , MikeS

IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !

WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!

HEY MIKE

JUst keep hittin that delete button in your head and maybe, jus mabe it'tll go away. NOT!!

You're the one who should be...

calling for the electroshock, Scott.

There you will be, working away, doing your best, and Nancy will be starin' at the back of your head with those big ever-opened botoxed eyes.

Starin' and starin' - yep...

:)

When I followed Scott over

When I followed Scott over here to his new digs - nice place, Scott! - I resolved to elevate my own game by moving away from confrontation and hostility and becoming a more gentle, accommodating old geezer. More reasoned discussion, less red-hot debate, and all that to match my new online persona.

Not that I won't still respond vigorously to challenges of fact, history etc but I'll pass on the ad hom attacks since they do nothing to raise the level of discourse and are boring and pointless to readers not aware of the existing personality conflicts between myself and my impassioned detractors.

Oh, I'll still read the attacks (except for those of a certain poster who is on ignore for unforgivable transgressions - LOL) and enjoy them for their lack of wit, originality and substance, I just won't reply. Please don't take it personally - it doesn't mean you're not a good person just because old Mike doesn't take the bait, er reply.

Scott, old buddy uh new buddy, I want to make you proud of me (and not boot me from your thread, heh heh). And I have new responsibilities now that I've assumed the role of President of my new organization ZNTI - Zionist Neocon Trolls International.

President and, alas, sole member at the moment, but I'm recruiting; I'm announcing that membership is now, as of this moment, open to all who believe in world domination and making lots of money. Join us (me)!

:)

From Proteanview youtube: "HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE...

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=PW7ZipuGsqg&

Quote by Proteanview:
"To look up the names/terms in the annotations?
Don't knee-jerk or get all emotional. Do some research.
(Douglas Feith, Amdocs, Richard Perle, 'A Clean Break')
Let folks know what you come up with."

Yank, interesting video,

I agree with that intelligent young man.

Certain "elements" in the public are in such a state of paralyzed fear that they cannot think rationally or cognitively.

How To: Stupefy Society:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuNiDYaVPBU

Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nD7dbkkBIA

And there is a tiny minority of "disinfo elements" with no life whose purpose is to annoy and distract with moronic "noise" that does not pertain to any of the subject matter in question which leads nowhere. Which is of course, their intention.

The very fact that some trolls will hover like horse flies and make fools out of themselves speaks for itself.

Remember who owns and "sanitizes" the sleazy Zionist controlled media with disinformation programs against the fear driven public (Cointelpro).

EVERYTHING must be verified, including what anyone reads from me. Truth fears no investigations but bogus charlatans always try to distract because they fear investigations more than anyone.

As you know, some of us took a sacred oath to defend and protect our CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC against all enemies, foreign or domestic, not a corrupted political party, the obscene profits of oil companies, warped Zionists who lie to, murder and steal from everyone or the evil chicken hawks who obscenely profit from it.

June 6th, 1967, the Israeli military deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, napalming the ship's deck (causing the sailor's skin to peel from their bones) then shot holes into the lifeboats so that witnesses who survived the cowardly attack could not escape. 34 dead, 171 wounded and over 821 holes in the ship's hull.

Israel's plan was to blame Egypt, and have the US retaliate against Egypt.

And Jew pretending Zionists accuse anyone who blows the cover on that cowardly attack of "anti-Semitism"? Give me a f@#$&*! break!

THIS FORUM TOPIC HAS BEEN OVERHAULED BY ME- SCOTT ALLEN

Let it not ever be said that im not willing to admit to error, and that im willing to comprimise, for the pursuance of peacefull discourse. The title of this discussion site, has now been changed.

TO MIKE S.

MIKE, I HAVE TONED DOWN THIS SITE FROM IT'S ORIGINAL CONFIGURATION. IT'S LESS RELIGIOUSLY HOSTILE IN IT'S PUBLIC APPEARENCE FROM HOW IT WAS, ORIGINALLY. I MADE THIS CHANGE OF MY OWN FREE WILL BECAUSE I ENDED UP BEING UNCOMFORTIBLE WITH THE ORIGINAL TITLE. I HOPE YOU'LL APPROAVE.

SCOTT,

Do we really need to be hovered by that stupid Zionist troll again?

A legitimate government would have imprisoned Karl Rove by now and he laughs at subpoenas.

The evidence is so overwhelmingly clear that the tentacles are now everywhere.

Zionists exploit and contaminate the religion of others to "rationalize" land theft, torture, grotesque atrocities, mass murder, infanticide, sponsor more false flag "terrorism", bribery, blackmail, media manipulation, more sleaze from Fox News, election frauds and with the help of enough public apathy, the destruction of our Republic.

The agenda is crystal clear to those of us who know.

Incite a World War of two billion Christians against two billion Muslims, (both enemies of Israel) and the enslavement of survivors.

Invasions of Lebanon, Iran, Syria, Qatar, etc., provoke Russia, India, Pakistan and China.

Iran retaliates with state of the art recombination DNA bioweapons and blocks off the Straits if Hormuz.

US soldiers in Iraq have no oil, logistics, supplies or evacuation routes.

Gasoline prices soar to $10 to $15 dollar per gallon overnight. Truckers park their Rigs on the side of the roads and walk away.

Food, medicine and critical supplies will not be delivered to the stores. People will not be able to afford gas to drive to work. Banks close their doors and limits withdrawals.

Civil unrest builds, food riots, lack of clean water and medical supplies, pandemics of cholera and hepatitis, children, sick and elderly die from lack of heat in the winter and lack of air conditioned homes and hospitals in the summer, civil wars, Blackwater data mines and targets all registered gun owners, Martial Law is declared under provisions of Bush's "Patriot Act", REX-84, Containment Centers for dissidents and survivors. Police are unable to contain the violence because they too are victims of the same crisis.

The obliterated US economy is replaced with the North American Union ("Amero" RFID Chip).

America will shut down.

The United States descends into chaos and becomes a third world country, it's time as a "superpower" is over.

And by the way, Russia actually does have real life "weapons of mass destruction", capable of intercontinental delivery.

By the time brain dead sheeple finally suspect that they have been lied to, the traitorous members of Congress will have already been relocated to undisclosed locations to protect themselves from retaliation.

Ignorant Bush supporters find themselves alone with poor survival skills and no Burger Kings.

As I compose this, the sleazy Zionist owned "Fox News" and agent provocateurs are trying to incite 1968 style riots at the DNC.

Fox News Crew at the DNC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGHm3Yl9IHI

Federal Reserve Police Assault women protesting at the DNC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfISlq1gzK8

If Americans Knew AIPAC ADL Zionist control of America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLSdd166Cqg

VOTING FOR NUCLEAR WAR:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTrtkI-OldM

ISRAELI ATROCITIES:
http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html

Eustice Mullins explains the World Order:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Eustice+Mullins&emb=0#

A Thorough, Detailed History
Of Zionist Crimes:
http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/zionist%20crimes%20history.htm

The "anti-Semitism" Scam

Has been used as a window dressing excuse for false flag terrorism at the expense of legitimate Jewish people for over five decades. The scam became so reckless and sloppy during the criminal "administration" of George W Bush that anyone who still tries to sell the old rusty Edsel makes a fool out of themselves at their own expense.

While the media proclaims the recently concluded European Conference as a reaffirmation of the fight against "anti-Semitism", the reality is that Israel has been dealt a stunning reality check.

Long used to equating criticism of Israel as an expression of hate against the Jewish people, Israeli supporters attending the conference (when they were not vandalizing artwork) tried repeatedly to define criticism of Israel as "anti-Semitism", and were rebuffed at every turn.

Even Colin Powell, Secretary of State to the one nation always willing to protect Israel at the United Nations, delinked criticism of Israel from anti-Semitism. In the end, even the ADL's Abe Foxman had to grin and try to put his best face on. But Israel has lost one of its oldest and most effective means to deflect criticism of its "actions".

Simply put, it is NOT "anti-Semitism" to criticize Israelis for what they DO.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to report on Israeli spies in this country illegally taping into police phone systems and warning Israeli drug dealers of investigations that threaten them.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to point out that Israel has defied more UN Resolutions than any country in the Mid East.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to mention that Israel is the only nation in the Middle East that actually HAS weapons of mass destruction.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to remind people that Ariel Sharon has committed vile atrocities against humanity and has been charged with war crimes.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to oppose the continuing sending of US tax dollars to Israel (totally four times the cost of the entire Apollo Moon Program) during times of great economy hardship in this country.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism to express concern over the vast sums of money that pro-Israel lobbyists are pouring into Congressional coffers.

It is NOT anti-Semitism" to be concerned about reports that the Mossad has succeeded in tapping even the White House phone system.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to point out that many of these supposed "hate crimes" Israel loves to hide behind are bogus.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to want the US Government to be more concerned with the American people than with Israelis.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to reject politicians who openly display their loyalty to a foreign government over America's Constitutional Republic.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to be angered by Philip Zelikow's admission that the war in Iraq was not fought to protect the US, but to support land and resource theft for Israel at the cost of our soldier's lives, $5 + Trillion Dollars, the self enrichment of "neoconservatives" and America's reputation.

It is not "anti-Semitism" to express disgust that NO Israelis were killed in Bush's Iraq Holocaust.

It is not "anti-Semitism" to be sick and tired of being lied to.

It is NOT "anti-Semitism" to tell Israel's supporters that hiding their crimes behind the entire Jewish people by screaming "anti-Semite" at every criticism is a really good way to set legitimate Jewish people up as targets!

Finally, it is not "anti-Semitism" to tell Israel to go to hell.

Make no mistake, Israel has been dealt a permanent and serious blow by the conference in Europe. While there is no question that Israel's supporters will go on harassing, spamming, hovering around and smearing those who dare criticize the policies of Ariel Sharon but the scam is over. It will never stick again.

It's official.

Criticism of Israel is NOT "anti-Semitism".

It did not take long for Bush's lies about Iraq's "weapons of mass destruction" to catch up to him. The lies are now common knowledge in the general public. To start a war of aggression based on lies that has killed over 1,200,000 innocent men, women, children and babies, destroyed the lives of over 5,000,000 more innocent people and will cost Americans and unborn future generations over $5,000,000,000 Dollars is a unforgivable war crime against humanity.

Who else would have the temerity and the contacts to protect greedy chicken hawk thugs like Cheney/Bush from accountability through spying and blackmail besides Zionists?

As yank pointed out, the boy has cried "wolf". The sleazy Zionist owned media has cried "wolf" so many times that it's talking heads are a international joke.

Once critical mass reaches public awareness, the sleazy Zionist owned media will be nothing but a bad memory.

Zionists have nothing left to "sell", just more lies and more fear.

So, anyone who is stupid enough to buy the same rusted out Edsel again probably deserves what they get.

I WANT SOMETHING POINTED OUT REGARDING THE USS LIBERTY

Assuming that most who read this far down, will have at least some basic knowledge about the intentional ISRAELI attack in the U S S LIBERTY

After a long hard struggle, the surviving crew members of the USS LIBERTY were finally going to get their voices heard on a major television network weekly news program.

Israel immediatly launched a counter dis-information campaign and they subsequently began calling the surviving crew members "ANTI-SEMITES"! The reason ISRAEL did this, was because an objective AND very effective inquirey/investigation had been conducted, and certain undeniaable facts discovered that were goung to be publiclly disclosed on that news program that would effectivly and unrefutibly prove ISRAELS attack on the USS LIBERTY was an intentional attack knowningly, on a UNITED STATES NAVAL VESSEL.

ISRAEL CALLED THOSE LUCKY SURVIVORS, LUCKY, BECAUSE THROUGH PURE FORTUNATE LUCK, AND OFCOURSE, MEDICAL SCIENCE THAT SAVED WHAT WOUNDED WHO LIVED LONG ENOUGH, IN SPITE OF THEIR WOUNDS,TO RECEIVE MEDICAL CARE, THESE SAILORS WERE THE ONE'S THAT HAD SURVIVED ISRAELS DELIBERATE ATTACK. THEY WERE THERE TO TELL THE TRUTH.
And THE GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL, began calling the whole lot of them, ANTI-SEMITES. And this name calling was nothing more than an OPPINION SUBVERSIVENESS TACTIC.

THERES ISRAEL FOR YOU! Our supposed freind, and ally,
to whom we've given BILLIONS $$$ TO. FRIEND INDEED! HA!

**ADDITIONAL COMMENT**

i want to address the younger people, who may look at the date of the USS LIBERTY attack which was,6-6-67.
Don't look at that event as old news, and meaningless to the present BECAUSE, either way you go from that date, back in time, or forward in time, you'll find documented evidence showng crimes committed by the GOVERNMENT OF ISRAEL, which will show a long term pattern, of one impropreity after another, one criminal act, after another which can clearly demonstrate a dark state of mind of certain members within the ISRAELI government. I truly, TRULY WISH, it wasent so, but there it is, there they are, and there the evidence is, within history. ANYONE who DARES to attempt to pick that history up, will be labled ANTI-SEMATIC by present day Zionists. Be carefull.

Thank-you

Hidden History of Zionism

Why has there been no impeachment or accountability for the most corrupted president in US history?

For those who are young, here is a bit of hidden history from 1913 to the bizarre events of today that certain elements are afraid for you to see. I have posted this before but I think that it's worth repeating. Remember that truth fears no investigation, it encourages it:

1) Amscel Rothschild (Zionist Jew) paying Trotsky, Lenin an Stalin (all Zionists) to brutally murder over 20 million Russians while Stalin, Lolotov, Kaganovich and Yagoda (all Zionist Jews) were responsible for the deaths of over nine million Ukrainians.

2) Zionist control of the international banking cabal and the establishment of the "Federal Reserve" system by Rothschild agent, Paul Warburg. Zionist bankers defrauded president Woodrow Wilson into signing the "Federal Reserve Act" into law while the House Democrats were on 1913 Christmas vacation (IRS, Income Tax, unratified 16th Amendment which was engineered to keep America in permanent debt, stolen countless trillions of dollars from Americans and devalued our currency since 1913).

The Federal Reserve is no more "Federal" than Federal Express. It is a privately owned bank of the Rothschilds which prints fiat currency (Federal Reserve Notes) out of nothing for the government. WE pay the outrageous interest (usury) charges in the form of a non apportioned "income tax" and suffer warped "inflation".

3) The disgusting Balfour Declaration, written by Zionist Chaim Weizmann, which led to the slaughter of World War ll where tens of millions of people were killed, all so that Israel could be facilitated with their own rouge "state". A situation that has resulted in amoral land theft and constant Mid East strife ever since.

4) Zionist collaboration with Nazis during World War ll, including Adolf Eichmann meeting with Mossad emissary Bar-Gilead in Vienna, 1938.

5) The repulsive Holocaust Hoax, which is such an exaggerated fairy tale that it's legs have now been kicked out from under it forever. The numbers are a lie, ( 2500 people per second) no homicidal gas chambers ever existed and the myths of human skin lampshades and bars of soap made from human fat are all admitted propaganda fabrications, even by the Jews.

6) The Lavon Affair, where Zionist Mossad agents dressed as Arabs, carried out a number of terrorist bombings against American bases and installations in Egypt. This "false flag" operation actually caused so much commotion that Israel's government fell at the time.

In 1954, Israeli agents working in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including a United States diplomatic facility, and left evidence behind implicating Arabs as the culprits. The ruse would have worked, had not one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to capture and identify one of the bombers, which in turn led to the round up of an Israeli spy ring, the wonderful "Mossad".

7) The CIA's MK-ULTRA experiments, led by Jewish madman Sidney Gottlieb.

8) November 22, 1963, John F. Kennedy's brains being splattered over the back of his limousine, a ritualistic act of "killing the king" as a consequence of JFK's refusal to allow Israel's developments of nuclear weapons (the original Mid-East WMD's), his intentions to rid America of the Federal Reserve, cast the CIA into the thousand winds, reveal the truth about the UFO problem and refusal to support George H W Bush's "Operation Northwoods" The ships were names the "Barbara" and "Zapata", after Bush's wife and off shore oil rig (that's another dirty story).

9) June 6th, 1967, the Israeli military deliberately attacked the USS Liberty, napalming the ship's deck (causing the sailor's skin to peel from their bones) then shot holes into the lifeboats so that witnesses who survived the ruthless attack could not escape. 34 dead, 171 wounded and over 821 holes in the ship's hull. Israel's plan was to blame Egypt, and have the US retaliate against Egypt.

10) September 5, 1972, Eight Palestinian "Black September" terrorists seized 11 Israeli athletes in the Olympic Village in Munich, West Germany. In the rescue attempt directed by Moshe Dyan, using West German authorities, nine of the hostages, and five terrorists were killed.

Israel, and it's Zionist Jews, are once again the victim, and the Palestinians are the "demons".

11) 1976, Israel faked a hijacking to Kenya (Idi Imin was a Israeli puppet), and then pulled a rescue, portraying themselves as elite commandos.

Arabs looked like monsters and the Israelis, having suffered "countless persecutions", have decided to fight back.

12) 1985, Abu Abbas, and 15 Arabs, took over a cruise ship and threw a Leon Klinghoffer overboard. After two days of negotiations, the seajackers abandoned the ship.

In this False Flag, the Israelis turned world opinion against the Arabs, while once again portraying themselves as "victims".

13) In 1984, Zionist Jews (dressed as Arabs) staged a protest outside the Libyan embassy in London. Approximately 25 English Bobbies were used for crowd control. During the middle of the demonstration, a shot rang out and a female Bobby named Yvonne Fletcher was killed.

The shot came from a building used by the Mossad to spy on the Libyan embassy, but the newspapers overlooked that and blamed Libya.

Israel used this false flag murder of Policewoman Fletcher, to turn world opinion against Libya.

14) Dec 1988, Lockerbie, Mossad blew up Pan AM 103 and blamed it on Libya. Unfortunately, the plane was late and blew up overland, and all the evidence pointed towards Israel.

Israel's goal was to demonize the Muslims, and lay the groundwork for 9/11.

15) 1996, Khobar Towers was bombed. It housed an F-15 unit.

Israel said it was done by Hezbollah, but US military investigators linked it to Mossad.

16) 1993, OKC Murrah Building, One of the Mossad's American arms, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), was concerned about the growth of Patriot movements such as Militias, so an attack was staged using a Timothy McVeigh patsy, who was out of Elohim City (Jewish-sponsored terror Mecca).

The real brains behind the OKC bombing were Andreas Strassmeir and Daniel Spiegelman, who were/are both Jewish.

The Zionists destroyed the Militia movement's credibility, and brought the FBI down on them.

17) 1993, World Trade Center, In Dec. 1992, an Israeli soldier, Nissim Toledano, was kidnapped and killed. The Israeli government rounded up 1600 members of Hamas, and deported 415 of them to the no-mans land between the Israeli and Lebanese borders. In the brutally inhospitable weather, these 415 Hamas members were stranded without food and shelter. Furthermore, the Israeli authorities stopped any humanitarian aid from reaching these people. With media focus on the deportees, it triggered international outrage against Israel, which was followed by international pressure on Israel that refused to go away. This time, Israel had bit off more than it could chew. It was time to ‘deflect’ pressure off Israel.

18) September 11, 2001.

Ever since America's coup d'etat of Y2K Israel has been playing for keeps. The Zionist owned Faux Fear Nutwork is still trying to suppress the 5 dancing Israelis story of 9/11/01. Their names are; Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner and Omer Marmari. On Israeli television they said they were sent to New York to "document the event".

So, how does one "document an event" without having foreknowledge of the event? Upon apprehension, it was discovered that the five dancing Israelis were dressed as....Arabs! This fact is crucial because both the Lavon Affair and the attack on the USS Liberty were supposed to be blamed on...you guessed it, Arabs!

When they were arrested, police found $4700 dollars in cash, Foreign Passports, Box Cutters, Maps of New York City with certain monuments highlighted and recently taken photos of the men celebrating as the Twin Towers imploded and innocent people dying. They even had the temerity to hold a cigarette lighter in front of the camera like teenagers at a rock concert. Who else was supposed to have "Box Cutters" that day? THE HIJACKERS!

So, why are they not in prison? There was no "deal cut" by the Feds, Michael Chertoff (Dual Israeli/US Citizen and Director of Homeland Stupidity) ordered their release! What was Chertoff trying to hide and why would "Fox News" try to censor this important story?

Before dismissing this, consider Osama Bin Laden's (the real Osama) initial statement to the BBC after the attacks: "I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks". "There exists a government within a government within the United States". He continued, "That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. The American system is totally in the control of the Zionist Jews, whose first priority is for Israel, not the United States".

The "9/11" (False Flag) scam has more holes in it than Swiss cheese, they are very sloppy and the Neocruds know it. They likely kept Bush out of the loop in Florida's Booker Elementary School that day for fear that this stupid drunken manchild would say or do something stupid and of course, he did.

19) 2005, Mossad bombed London buses. The general public is so suspicious, that Israel leaders have been told not to talk publicly. The news media pushes the story it was Al Quada Pakistani bombers.

Israeli intelligence services went into action. A detailed process that is too long to elaborate here, hatched a plan. In the third week of February 1993, a truck bomb exploded in the basement of the World Trade Center building. Muslims used as scapegoats took the blame for it, while the real culprits were safely back in Israel. Thus world opinion and pressure was shifted away from Israel.

20) George HW Bush's revealing quote about the reality of our world, "If people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched" (As relayed to reporter Sara McClendon in June, 1992).

21) Zionist ownership and domination of America's mass media which has created a permeating atmosphere of "Big Brother" truth suppression at CNN, FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC plus mainstream newspapers and magazines. Charles Lindberg warned us decades ago, "The greatest danger to this country lies in the Zionist Jew ownership and influence in our motion pictures, press, radio and government".

Now, I'm going to post direct quotes from the Zionist Talmud. Once again, please verify EVERYTHING that I have posted here. I have unimpeachable data and proof of EVERYTHING!

When you read this remember that evil will always try to rationalize itself but it is still evil.

First, a few unforgivable documented Zionist war crimes:

1) The slaying of 13 year old Omam al-Hams, a teenage girl walking to school who was shot twice in the head at close range by a soldier in the Israeli Defense Force, who then emptied the entire magazine into the child's corpse.

2) Ariel Sharon's appalling war crimes in which he commanded Lebanese soldiers to massacre over 1500 unarmed Palestinians in the Shattila and Sabra refugee camps.

3) Twenty Irgun terrorists (dressed as Arabs) storm trooping Jerusalem's King David Hotel and detonating 495 pounds of explosives. 91 innocent people were killed, many of them British soldiers.

4) Dr. Baruch Goldstein walking into a solemn Arab mosque filled with worshippers, then assailing them as he opened fire with a military assault rifle. 29 were killed, including women and children.

5) The bulldozing of peace activist Rachel Corrie by Israeli Defence Force tanks, crushing and mangling her to death in cold blood.

Now, fasten your seat belt:

Sanhedren, Babba Kamma, Baba Mezia, Yabamoth and Aboda Zora.

6) The demonic Zionist Talmud, the root of Zionism, describing Jesus' mother as a common whore who conceived the Savior during menstruation.

7) The Talmud characterizing Jesus as a sorcerer, a perverted sexual degenerate who fornicated with donkeys, and saying that he should be boiled in hot excrement.

8) The original Holocaust where Zionist Jew parents threw their children into burning pits of fire as a way of worshipping their god, Moloch.

9) The Talmudic granting permission to Jews to cheat, lie, steal from and kill non-Jews. Specifically, Jews may use subterfuge (lies) to circumvent Gentiles. "We may lie to and cheat Gentiles. It is permitted for Jews to cheat Gentiles. All lies are good".

10) The Talmudic quote about gentiles: " Only the Jew is human. On contrast, all non-Jews are animals. They are beasts in human form. Anything is permitted against them. The Jews may lie to, cheat and steal from them. He may even rape and murder them". (Well known Jewish scholar Dibre David wrote of such hate speech, "If the Gentiles knew what we are teaching against them, they would kill us".

11) America's current Iraq Holocaust and Mid East threats, commonly referred to as "Israel's wars".

12) The glorification of violence and mass murder that is celebrated every year via the Jewish "anti-holiday" of Purim (based on the book of Esther, the most vengeful tract of the Old Testament).

13) The Talmud's misanthropic view of Gentiles, whom they categorize as being inherently beneath them. "The best of gentiles - kill them". "Gentiles are not human beings". Maimonides also instructed his followers that Christians should be exterminated.

(And this bullshit from a people who whine about the Holocaust, anti-Semitism and compassion for six decades). Women, in case you're interested, were viewed as nothing more than "witches" and "sacks of excrement".

14) The Talmudic promotion of pedophilia: "If a grown-up has intercourse with a little girl, it is nothing, for having intercourse with a girl less than three years old is like putting a finger in the eye".

15) Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

16) Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

17) Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

18) Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

19) Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

20) Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.

21) Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

22) Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

23) Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews. (Jewish Press, June 9, 1989, p. 56B).

24) Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

This is how Jewish denial of the existence of hateful Talmud texts is justified to this day. A fanciful word for Jewish lying is conjured ("condonation") and deemed "pardonable," while any scrutiny of Jewish holy books by Christian investigators is characterized as a "tyrannical proceeding."

Forgive me but I am getting physically ill from this satanic "anti-Christ" shit. I have to take a break from it but hopefully the point has been made.

In order to be respected one must be worthy of respect. Anyone who subscribes to this foul crap is not only unworthy of respect, they are mortal and spiritual deceitful enemies.

This is what contaminates our government and protects Cheney/Bush.

I don't subscribe to superstition but it's unteresing to note that the Zionist Star of David has 6 sides, six angles and 6 points, "666".

Now, I need some Mylanta.

There is no "excuse" for any of this crap. It cannot be "rationalized" or "justified".

And Zionist Jews have the unmitigated gall to complain about "hate speech"?

Where Do Your Tax Dollars Really Go?

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1.3 million American families lost their homes to foreclosure in 2007.

Meanwhile, billions of YOUR tax dollars continue to purchase beautiful new homes with subsidized mortgages and separated with a apartheid wall ...in Israel.

LETTER TO PRESIDENT BUSH FROM THE PNAC DATED 3-3-02

Letter to President Bush on Israel, Arafat and the War on Terrorism

April 3, 2002

The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

We write to thank you for your courageous leadership in the war on terrorism and to offer our full support as you continue to protect the security and well-being of Americans and all freedom-loving peoples around the world.

In particular, we want to commend you for your strong stance in support of the Israeli government as it engages in the present campaign to fight terrorism. As a liberal democracy under repeated attack by murderers who target civilians, Israel now needs and deserves steadfast support. This support, moreover, is essential to Israel's continued survival as a free and democratic nation, for only the United States has the power and influence to provide meaningful assistance to our besieged ally. And with the memory of the terrorist attack of September 11 still seared in our minds and hearts, we Americans ought to be especially eager to show our solidarity in word and deed with a fellow victim of terrorist violence.

No one should doubt that the United States and Israel share a common enemy. We are both targets of what you have correctly called an "Axis of Evil." Israel is targeted in part because it is our friend, and in part because it is an island of liberal, democratic principles -- American principles -- in a sea of tyranny, intolerance, and hatred. As Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld has pointed out, Iran, Iraq, and Syria are all engaged in "inspiring and financing a culture of political murder and suicide bombing" against Israel, just as they have aided campaigns of terrorism against the United States over the past two decades. You have declared war on international terrorism, Mr. President. Israel is fighting the same war.

This central truth has important implications for any Middle East peace process. For one spoke of the terrorist network consists of Yasser Arafat and the leadership of the Palestinian Authority. Although your critics in the United States, Europe and the Arab world suggest that you and your administration bear some responsibility for the lack of political progress between Israel and the Palestinians, they are mistaken. As Secretary of State Powell recently stated, the present crisis stems not from "the absence of a political way forward" but from "terrorism., terrorism in its rawest form." That terrorism has been aided, abetted, harbored, and in many instances directed by Mr. Arafat and his top lieutenants. Mr. Arafat has demonstrated time and again that he cannot be part of the peaceful solution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. He demonstrated it in July 2000, when he rejected the most generous Israeli peace offer in history; he demonstrated it in September 2000, when he launched the new intifada against Israel; and he demonstrated it again these past two weeks when, despite the hand you offered him through Vice President Cheney, he gave sanction to some of the worst terrorist violence against Israeli citizens.

It is true that the United States has a leading role to play in the Middle East and, potentially, in resolving the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. But it is critical that negotiations not be the product of terrorism or conducted under the threat of terrorist attack. This would send a most dangerous signal to our adversaries that civilized states do not have the necessary courage to fight terrorism in all its forms.

Mr. President, it can no longer be the policy of the United States to urge, much less to pressure, Israel to continue negotiating with Arafat, any more than we would be willing to be pressured to negotiate with Osama Bin Laden or Mullah Omar. Nor should the United States provide financial support to a Palestinian Authority that acts as a cog in the machine of Middle East terrorism, any more than we would approve of others providing assistance to Al Qaeda.

Instead, the United States should lend its full support to Israel as it seeks to root out the terrorist network that daily threatens the lives of Israeli citizens. Like our own efforts in Afghanistan and elsewhere, Israel's task will not be easy. It will not be accomplished quickly or painlessly. But with fortitude, on our part as well on the part of the Israeli people, it can succeed in significantly reducing the risk of future terrorist attacks against Israel and against us. And, in so doing, we will give the Palestinian people a chance they have so far not had under Arafat's rule -- an opportunity to construct a political culture and government that do not marry their national and religious aspirations with suicide bombers.

Furthermore, Mr. President, we urge you to accelerate plans for removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq. As you have said, every day that Saddam Hussein remains in power brings closer the day when terrorists will have not just airplanes with which to attack us, but chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons, as well. It is now common knowledge that Saddam, along with Iran, is a funder and supporter of terrorism against Israel. Iraq has harbored terrorists such as Abu Nidal in the past, and it maintains links to the Al Qaeda network. If we do not move against Saddam Hussein and his regime, the damage our Israeli friends and we have suffered until now may someday appear but a prelude to much greater horrors. Moreover, we believe that the surest path to peace in the Middle East lies not through the appeasement of Saddam and other local tyrants, but through a renewed commitment on our part, as you suggested in your State of the Union address, to the birth of freedom and democratic government in the Islamic world.

Mr. President, in that address, you put forth a most compelling vision of a world at peace, free from the threat of terrorism, where freedom flourishes. The strength of that vision lies in its moral clarity and consistency. In the war on terrorism, we cannot condemn some terrorists while claiming that other terrorists are potential partners for peace. We cannot help some allies under siege, while urging others to compromise their fundamental security. As you eloquently stated: "Our enemies send other people's children on missions of suicide and murder. They embrace tyranny and death as a cause and a creed. We stand for a different choice, made long ago, on the day of our founding. We affirm it again today."

Israel's fight against terrorism is our fight. Israel's victory is an important part of our victory. For reasons both moral and strategic, we need to stand with Israel in its fight against terrorism.

Sincerely,

William Kristol

Ken Adelman Gary Bauer Jeffrey Bell William J. Bennett

Ellen Bork Linda Chavez Eliot Cohen Midge Decter

Thomas Donnelly Nicholas Eberstadt Hillel Fradkin Frank Gaffney

Jeffrey Gedmin Reuel Marc Gerecht Charles Hill Bruce P. Jackson

Donald Kagan Robert Kagan John Lehman Tod Lindberg

Rich Lowry Clifford May Joshua Muravchik Martin Peretz

Richard Perle Daniel Pipes Norman Podhoretz Stephen P. Rosen

Randy Scheunemann Gary Schmitt William Schneider, Jr. Marshall Wittmann

R. James Woolsey

being and ANTI-ZIONIST doesn't mean you are a JEW HATER, either!

and, just to set the record straight, MATTY, some of us object to the LIKUDNIK's in the KNESSET running out country into the fucking toilet, but that does NOT MAKE US JEW HATERS IF WE CALL OUT THESE CRIMES AGAINST THIS NATION, such as what they aided and abetted in on Sept. 11, 2001. There can be little, if ANY doubt of any kind, that ISRAEL WAS INVOLVED IN WHAT TOOK PLACE THAT DAY, and we're not talking in a 'complimentary' way, either!

so, before any of you asshole ZIONISTS get all spooled up, better check your fucking YARMULKE at the door and leave it there!

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