Why We're Planning to Prosecute Cheney and Bush
By David Swanson
Next weekend in Andover, Mass., a group of attorneys, academics, and activists will gather to plan the prosecution of Dick Cheney, George Bush, and the lawyers and advisors who, together with them, are responsible for war crimes. The conference is open to the public and expected to be well attended: http://war-crimes.info
I can't speak for everyone involved, but I can tell you why I'll be there. If I thought we could deter future presidents and vice presidents from abusing power by giving Cheney and Bush immunity for life, billion dollar pensions, and royal crowns, then that is exactly what I would propose we do. In fact, if there were just about anything that we could do that I thought would have that deterrent effect, I would advocate for it. I would give my life for it. I take the matter this seriously because we are preparing to hand what Michael Goldfarb, Deputy Communications Director for presidential candidate John McCain, approvingly calls "near dictatorial power" to every future president and vice president at a moment in history in which the twin dangers of global warming and nuclear war threaten us far more seriously than has any nation with which ours has ever clashed.
I am adamantly opposed to the possibility of imposing the death penalty on anyone, no matter what they are convicted of, because it has been shown to encourage violence rather than to deter it. Future presidents are not more likely to refrain from abusing power if they might be executed than if they might be imprisoned for life. If they are imprisoned for life, they can express their regrets in ways that their successors can understand. If they are killed, we will be the ones killing them, and we will thereby send a message to everyone that violence and vengeance are appropriate and admirable. Vengeance disgusts me. Bush and Cheney bore me. What interests me and inflames me is the desire to establish the rule of law, not for its own sake but in order to promote peace, fairness, human rights, and human survival.
Now, we may have an honest and verifiable election in November, although I can't see how. And we may elect a president and vice president who abide fully by the Constitution, the treaties our nation has ratified, and the laws that are on the books, although that seems highly unlikely. We might even see unconstitutional laws repealed, tyrannical executive orders torn up, and the Constitution amended to strengthen checks on power and expand the democratic influence of the people, although if you believe all that I've got a quick little cakewalk of a war to sell you. But think for a minute what message all those successes would send to future presidents and vice presidents and their subordinates: If you break the law, the punishment shall be that the duumvirate immediately following yours will not break the law. Oh, the horror! I can almost feel the terror gripping the spine of every future Dick Cheney and George W. Bush who will claim the throne throughout the remaining short life of our dying republic. "Nooooooo! Don't say that the next chump who comes after us won't get to be a war president! We can't stand such agony!"
In a December 31, 2007, editorial, the New York Times faulted the current president and vice president of the United States for kidnapping innocent people, denying justice to prisoners, torturing, murdering, circumventing U.S. and international law, spying in violation of the Fourth Amendment, and basing their actions on "imperial fantasies." If the editorial had been about Bush and Cheney robbing a liquor store or killing a small number of people or robbing a small amount of money or torturing a single child, then the writers at the New York Times would have demanded immediate prosecution and incarceration. Can you guess what they actually demanded? They demanded that we sit back and hope the next president and vice president will be better. Well, what if they are? The next guy who walked into the liquor store or played with the child would be better too. But how does that fact deter future crimes?
Well, we can announce new policies, pass new legislation, amend the Constitution. We can shift power to the Congress, and clean up our electoral system to allow real representation of the people in the Congress. We can shift our resources from the military to peaceful enterprises. We can eliminate secret government and create total transparency. We can perfect the brilliant cutting-edge democratic system that our nation created over two centuries ago and has done little to update since. We can put an end to plutocracy, reclaim our airwaves, ban war propaganda, and develop wholly different public attitudes toward those 95.5 percent of people in the world who are not Americans. And so we should. But even if we could do all of those things instantly, it would not be sufficient to chain the dogs of war. Exquisite laws and enlightened public attitudes are of no use at all as long as presidents and vice presidents suffer no penalty for disobeying them, and in fact benefit politically and financially.
Of course, in reality, we cannot reform our war government instantly, and we will be hard pressed to prevent even greater damage to our representative system as long as wars are going on. We are as likely to see President John McCain cheering for more wars in January as we are to see President Obama mumbling about moving wars from one country to another. If Obama loses or has his victory stolen, the Democrats will take everything they did wrong these past several years and redouble their commitment to screwing up even worse next time. Ending wars and impeaching criminal presidents will be even further "off the table," while patriotism, religion, and militarism will be on the rise. If, on the other hand, the Democrats win in November, they'll react exactly the same way. Their primary interest as soon as any election is won is winning the next one, and their only focus outside of the White House is on controlling the partisan re-gerrymandering of districts in 2012. I wish that this focus on each subsequent election could be seen as a sign of health in our democracy, but in the corrupt, money-laden, media-mangled, party-powered system we have, voters' choices are minimal, and the total focus on elections amounts to a total abandonment of governing in between elections.
During the Democratic primaries, Senator Obama said he'd have his attorney general look into the possibility that Bush and Cheney had committed crimes, but that as far as he knew they hadn't committed any. At the same time, Obama promised not to commit some of the same crimes himself. He later voted to give telecom companies immunity for cooperating with some of the crimes. This past week Obama's vice-presidential running-mate Joe Biden said that he, too, didn't know of any crimes that had been committed, but that an Obama-Biden administration would look into the question. He also promised a justice department that would no longer commit crimes. The day after Biden made these nonsensical remarks, he went on TV to insist that an Obama-Biden administration has no intention of prosecuting Bush and Cheney.
There's a much more serious potential road block to domestic criminal prosecution than Barack Obama's belief that Bush and Cheney's crimes should be hushed up, namely the possibility that Bush will issue blanket pardons of anyone who engaged in crimes he authorized, including himself. If such a pardon strikes you as a sick joke, I'm with you. But signing statements and military tribunals and pentagon pundits and a partisan justice department and ATM companies building election machines without the safeguards that ATMs have would have all sounded like sick jokes if they weren't real. Without admitting that Bush or anyone else has committed any crimes, Obama or McCain could take a position against any president, himself included, ever pardoning anyone for a crime that the president authorizes. Congress, or at least the House of Representatives, could stop vacationing and pass legislation forbidding such pardons. Lawyers and Constitutional experts could publish op-eds in major newspapers on the unacceptability of such pardons. A massive movement in the coming months to raise public pressure against pardons makes at least as much sense as continuing to ask Congress to pretty please "end the war," as if Congress will ever do anything about wars other than what the president tells it to do. A focus on pardons at least begins to limit the power of the individual holding all the power. Congress, unless it is restored to power, serves -- at best -- as just more people lobbying the president.
Now, blanket pardons or self-pardons could be challenged. There may be local and state and civil prosecutions possible despite pardons and strengthened by pardons. And prosecution by a foreign country or the International Criminal Court (ICC) is a possibility as well. With Obama and Biden suggesting they will "investigate" whether any crimes have been committed, there is no reason that they could not, without even joining the ICC or admitting that they know about the crimes, publicly commit to NOT vetoing at the United Nations any investigations that the ICC might choose to pursue. That commitment is a second demand that we can make of the candidates for emperor.
Some have expressed concern that when Cheney and Bush leave office they will destroy lots of evidence of their crimes. I do not share this concern, because they already have destroyed lots of such evidence, and nonetheless more than enough such evidence is in the public realm. We do not need any more, but do badly need to shake off the myth that we need any more. And there is something that cannot be destroyed: the many potential whistleblowers who have been keeping their mouths shut. We should not be relying on Congress. We should not be funneling our money through electoral campaigns and into TV ads on television networks that are destroying our country. We should be establishing a whistleblower protection fund that can guarantee financial security and legal defense to those considering blowing the whistle on their superiors.
As far as Congress goes, we should be demanding a commitment that the endless charades they have gone through with subpoenas and contempt citations for the past two years, while conscientiously avoiding impeachment, will not be dropped along with the ball in Times Square on New Year's Eve. "Executive privilege" loses even the slightest aura of respectability once the executive is guzzling beers on golf courses for a living. The committee chairmen and the House and Senate leaders who have authorized subpoenas and contempt citations only to be mocked and laughed at by the gang of pirates who will set sail in January must be compelled to publicly commit to re-issuing the same once the new justice department is in place.
There are also a variety of ways in which citizens can file suit. My friend John Bonifaz served as attorney on a law suit against the President before the invasion of Iraq on behalf of Congress members and military families claiming an invasion would be unconstitutional without a proper congressional declaration of war. John consulted in 2007 with a professor at Rutgers University, who worked up a case with his students for a full year, and in 2008 filed it in Federal District Court in Newark, New Jersey. The Complaint, filed on behalf of a number of peace groups, seeks a Declaratory Judgment that the President’s decision to launch a preemptive war against a sovereign nation in 2003 violated Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution, which assigns to Congress the power to Declare War. Every peace and justice group in the country should be working with lawyers, choosing their favorite Cheney-Bush crime, and filing a suit, the point being to change the public conversation until we reach the point that a prosecutor will act.
There is also a procedure called Qui Tam found in the Federal False Claims Act that allows individual citizens to sue if the government spends money fraudulently, and to receive a percentage of any funds recovered. Such a suit could conceivable be filed, or perhaps hundreds of such suits could be filed, against government officials, including Dick Cheney, who set up illegal contracts with Halliburton and other corporations, including contracts to spend in Iraq funding that had been legally appropriated for Afghanistan.
Prosecution is also possible in foreign nations. In May 2008 in Milano, Italy, 25 CIA agents and an Air Force colonel went on trial in absentia for kidnapping a man on an Italian street and renditioning him to Egypt to be tortured. The victim's wife testified for over six hours. A newspaper report read:
"Nabila at first rebuffed prosecutors' requests to describe the torture her husband had recounted, saying she didn't want to talk about it. Advised by prosecutors that she had no choice, she tearfully proceeded: 'He was tied up like he was being crucified. He was beaten up, especially around his ears. He was subject to electroshocks to many body parts.'
"'To his genitals?' the prosecutors asked.
"'Yes,' she replied."
The judge said that the current and immediate past prime ministers of Italy would be required to testify during the trial.
Foreign victims can also sue in U.S. courts. Also in May 2008, an Iraqi sued U.S. contractors for torture. Emad al-Janabi's federal lawsuit was filed in Los Angeles and claimed that employees of CACI International Inc. and L-3 Communications punched him, slammed him into walls, hung him from a bed frame and kept him naked and handcuffed in his cell. In July, three more Iraqis and a Jordanian who had been held and tortured in Abu Ghraib for years before being released without charges filed similar suits. Alleged methods of torture by the U.S. contractors included: electric shock, beatings, depriving of food and sleep, threatening with dogs, stripping naked, forcibly shaving, choking, being forced to witness murder, pouring feces on, holding down and sodomizing (a 14-year-old boy) with a toothbrush, being paraded naked before other prisoners, forcing to consume so much water that you vomit blood and faint, and tying a plastic line around your penis to prevent urination.
And on August 15, 2008, the Second Circuit Court of Appeals in New York announced that it would hear the case against the United States of Canadian victim of U.S. torture Maher Arar. His suit names, among others, former Attorney General John Ashcroft, former Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson, and former head of "Homeland Security" Tom Ridge.
We can also work at the local level to follow the example of Brattleboro, Vt., passing ordinances making it the law that if Bush, Cheney, or key co-conspirators enter our towns they will be arrested.
And we can make citizens arrests all on our own right now: http://afterdowningstreet.org/citizenarrest
Judge William Price in Iowa in July heard the case of people who had been arrested for trying to make a citizens' arrest of Karl Rove. When told what they were charged with, the judge remarked "Well, it's about time!"
And it's about time we put together a serious plan to establish the rule of law at home and abroad. I'll see you in Andover next weekend.
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Dugg it and
welcome back! Others pls digg. Will come up as duplicate, so add your digg to original. Wish I could be in Andover, but will look forward to some blogging..
IM FOR THIS MORE THAN MERE IMPEACHMENT THIS IS ACCOUNTIBILLITY
Is there any indication, at this point, as to how soon this may be proceded with? This is incredible.
Bush Administration-A Criminal Conspiracy
The Bush Administration Is an Ongoing Criminal Conspiracy Under International Law and U.S. Domestic Law
By Prof. Francis A. Boyle
URL of this article CLICK HERE: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=10036
Global Research, September 2, 2008
Justice Robert H. Jackson Conference:
Planning for the Prosecution of High Level American War Criminals
Massachusetts Law School
September 13-14, 2008
Andover, Massachusetts
Somewhere in Massachusetts
1. Can you provide the street address, building, floor, room information for this conference?
The Web Site just says that it is in Andover, MA (but no actual address details are given - not even on the travel information page).
2. In addition, can you register & pay upon arrival, or is it a requirement to pay in advance online?
Thanks
To Anonymous on Conference Location
1) Massachusetts Law School at Andover
2) Don't know
Taking a leap
and expect to be skewered, but if Obama promised to bring who most believe to be criminals, from evidence already in the public record, to account, i.e. impeachment and ultimately jail, I would vote for him and would encourage others to do so.
I would hope to keep my membership in the Green Party while saying so. While part of me believes this country deserves McCain if they don't wake up, I don't think they are entirely responsible for knowing with the CFM doing what they are prostituted to do. I don't think the unaware or uncaring are without responsibility to find out more, but our country's media doesn't make it easy for people to find real news.
Too few people came to vote in '68. There was a lot of "No difference between Nixon and Humphrey, why bother?" 40 years later, where we are now? I apologize in advance, but wanted to get something out that has been tearing me up. Thanks and peace.
Please be gentle. My skin is thin. Thanks and peace.
Leaping Rain
Hey Rain,
>...if Obama promised to bring who most believe to be criminals, from evidence already in the public record, to account, i.e. impeachment...
You don't have to worry about being skewered, Rain. When Obama was asked about impeachment at a constituent breakfast, he said:
Obama's solution isn't to adhere to the Constitution; it is rather to make an opportunistic jingo pitch: "vote the bums out!" So the lecturer on the Constitution (which necessarily implies he's read "the damn piece of paper" that Bush reviled) doesn't see impeachment, which is the investigation by the House into possible wrongdoing, as a Constitutional imperative for the many Bush administration crimes. Instead, he views it either as optional or unnecessary - and he's made the determination without inquiry. There is no evidence that a return to Constitutional government will occur in an Obama administration. Instead, he would benefit from Bush's extra-Constitutional powers, and feels no shame or remorse about it. It isn't about the nation, nor, as he says, "about you." It is all about him: "vote the bums out!"
>our country's media doesn't make it easy for people to find real news
This is the sixth characteristic of fascism:
You know, like prohibiting even the photographing of our military heroes' funerals.
To say that they died for lies is true, and saying that in no way diminishes the value of their sacrifice. Instead, acknowledging that appreciates their sacrifice. They died in service to our Republic and "all for which it stands", and our duty to them is to expose the truth and pursue justice against those who murdered them.
They died so that we may have the freedom to do so, and we have the solemn responsibility under the Constitution to do it.
Prosecution for starters
I wish that I could be as forgiving as you are about this. Bush and Cheney don't "bore me" as much as throw me into a cold rage when I think of all the blood and mayhem they have spawned. They are far and away the world's worst criminals and I want extreme justice. Just like the last eight years of tyranny. Let God have mercy on their souls.
YAY! David's back, and talking about prosecution ! YAY again!
So glad you are back, David! Chip did an excellent job keeping decorum , by the way ;-D
Thanks for pinch-hitting for David during his sabbatical , Chip! :o)
CONVICT BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !
WE MUST DEFEAT MCCAIN!!!
yes
thanks chip!
Thank You, David!
Thank You, David, I've had a rockin' good time! :)
Thanks, yank :)
Thanks, yank :). It is great to see David back - and talking about prosecution.
The saddest, but also perhaps the most historic blog...
Your blog post here David is one of the saddest imaginable... we're citizens of the United States of America aren't we? We must dig into our personal pockets to pursue justice?
"If I thought we could deter future presidents and vice presidents from abusing power by giving Cheney and Bush immunity for life, billion dollar pensions, and royal crowns, then that is exactly what I would propose we do."
A not so funny irony here is that what you hypothetically propose to give these war criminals is exactly what they've already taken for themselves, and this is no exaggeration of the results of the PNAC Hijacking of this nation since 2000. Of course, precisely the opposite must be pursued:
In order to deter future presidents from abusing power, we must take back the de facto immunity of Cheney and Bush, take back the billion dollar pensions and royal crowns and restore the Rule of Law to the Executive Office.
An interesting commentary about the character and philosophical foundation of neocons was just written by Kurt Nimmo under the title:
Insane Neocons Will Drive Us to War with Russia and Nuclear Confrontation which can be found at http://www.infowars.com/?p=4351
In it he relates:
"The neocons are more than Straussian fanatics, they are students of the Nazi jurist Carl Schmitt, who believed in a dictatorship of the executive and a state of perpetual emergency, Hitler’s Ausnahmezustand. Schmitt was in love with the “death machine,” that is to say pure acts of unspeakable violence in the name of the state, and so are his students, the neocons."
and:
"Strauss taught the neocons they are princeling philosophers and the rest of us are fools and chumps in Plato’s cave staring at shadows on the wall."
The article goes on to offer further evidence that PNAC's plans here were slightly more than insane and also provides a proper framework for understanding just how real human beings entrusted with democratically elected powers in the US could strive so relentlessly to abolish our system of governance.
Back to the sadness, it is no small historic marker that you, David, would be accurate in writing the post above. Though a large percentage of Americans could care less, the ones who do care may not understand the true scope and evil of this nightmare playing out right now. With this in mind and though I'm no legal scholar, I would like to suggest a few points to consider in pursuing justice in this stage of the game, for what it's worth.
1. PNAC = Motive. The signatures and objectives of this "think tank" tie together the Bush administration and their motivations more than any other single public document. And although they've finally taken down their own public site, bountiful archives exist. Combined with insane profiteering and unheard or Conflicts of Interest we can clearly demonstrate that the Bush administration had every intention of global hegemony and had no intention of preserving the republic.
2. Stolen 2000 Election = 9/11 False Flag Terrorism. The evidence for both crimes against our republic is now clearly established in the public domain. The establishment of a CONNECTION between them; That the stolen election was committed in order to stack federal agencies to prevent interference from such as Able Danger and NORAD and the FAA from independently blowing the whistle and the subsequent cover up must be made. I've long said a failure to expose the truth about 9/11 would prevent us from getting a restoration of the Constitution, the balance of powers or even fair elections, and today this is more true than ever. The linkage, the secretive cabals, strategies and personnel specifically employed because of the stolen 2000 election gave the green light to a long-sought 9/11-type False Flag.
These two points connect, this is RICO and Qui Tam per my understanding, and they're also War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity and International Terrorism wrapped up in a single Criminal administration, many of whom have their signatures recorded for the world to see... they really thought they'd get away with this and/or be able to hide themselves in Paraguay or other isolated haven, but they also mis-underestimated the internet which proved to be a formidable and relentless champion of the truth even against the resources of trillions in military and black-op borderless budgets. No doubt, doing it over again would involve first establishing a national internet terrorism sensor in order to complete the cover up.
Finally, I'd like to say in spite of how sad it is, that this face-off against these global criminals in our time is truly historic and we will eventually win this but only if we go for the jugular, the central and most atrocious crimes they've committed. By this we will restore our own Constitutional Order and eliminate 90%+ of the real root of militarism in the world today... the tallest order of all.
I'm with you in this endeavor in any way I can serve... I'd give my life for it.
ixoxi
Justice
ixoxi
Great piece.....I wish I could compose a writing like you. You have a burning desire to see justice served....I'm with you, and would give my life for it also.
Our founding fathers gave their lives for us, so that we could live free.
LIVE FREE OF DIE!
Russ
I truly and honestly hope
I truly and honestly hope that this project is successful and sets an important precedent. I also hope that the same is done here in the U.K., as Blair used the exact same tactics as Bush to get us involved in the war.
Most of all, I pray that this legal action is undertaken and not merely talked about. Good luck.
Just wanted to say Thank You
To Chip, David and all the friends I have met here during the past 2 years.
No matter what happens happens, no one can ever take that away from us. We are part of history.
Chip did a fantastic job under very demanding circumstances and I want to acknowledge him for it.
Well done!
I just registered but............
Still need exact address, Yes I understand Mass. School of Law then it adds, "Location TBA", I really need to know since I am driving solo as per quorum.
Thanks
Rhoda
I had just one goal-to stay alive until the next day...But it wasn't just to survive, but to survive as me.
--Mario Villani, a survivor of four years in Argentina's torture camps.
Massachusetts School of Law Andover MA
Massachusetts School of Law
500 Federal St
Andover, MA 01810
Email: mslaw@mslaw.edu
Main Switchboard: 978-681-0800
The exact location - the buildings and rooms, are not yet available. Upon arrival, there will probably be signs directing participants to locations on campus. Enjoy and work hard.
Thanks again, Chip!
I saw that yet it still has Location TBA, so Wasn't sure. Thanks, again.
_____________________________________________________________________
Americans are free to disagree with the law but not to disobey it.For a government of laws and not of men, no man, however prominent and powerful, and no mob, however unruly or boisterous, is entitled to defy a court of law. IF THIS COUNTRY should ever reach the point where any man or group of men by force or threat of force could long defy the commands of our courts and our Constitution, then no law would stand free from doubt, no judge would be sure of his writ, and NO CITIZEN would be SAFE FROM HIS NEIGHBORS.
J.F.K. 30 September 1962
Don't put Woodland Park as part of address
...because it is not a place associated with this Law School. It took me what, 25 minutes to straighten it out.
Americans are free to disagree with the law but not to disobey it.For a goernment of laws and not of men, no man, however prominent and powerful, and no mob, however unruly or boisterous, is entitled to defy a court of law. IF THIS COU
Removed it Rhoda
I'm sorry, and removed Woodland Park from the address.
Apparition, You made me grin
Sometimes words don't quite nail it, but thank you, apparition, for the acknowledgment. David is big boots to fill, and though I knew I'd never do it, it sure was fun trying! :) Thanks, apparition!
History is made, day-by-day. I still believe in keeping hope alive, and in a place called Hope.
We may be in the countdown to booting out Bush, but we are definitely not out. We've heard about Bush-McSame's Hundred Years War, but have they heard of the American Centurion Resistance Endeavor (ACRE, for short), as those who stand for authentic American constitutional values reaffirm Constitutional supremacy across the nation, acre-by-acre?
I bet our great-grandkids will, a century from now.
TO SWANSON REF: CHIP
Chip did an outstanding job moderating as well as mediateing. He is good at cleanning up mistakes, and he is skilled in the art of diplomacy.
Thank you Chip for everything you personally did for me. I hope your to remain active around here. We certainly have our fight cut out.
Scott Humphrey
You're welcome, Scott
Remember Tom Hanks in Forrest Gump? When he's sitting at the bus stop, and starts yakking at that old lady, telling her that life is like a box of chocolates because you never knew what you were going to get?
That's how it's been here! :) Thanks for a good ride; it was fun! :)
Chip
Be Well....
R.A.Brown
Thanks, you, too!
Obama dead wrong on impeachment
I believe congress should form a standing committee on impeachments that constantly polices high administration officials for bribery, treason and "high" crimes and misdemeanors.
We must also remove the vagueness from the expressions "high crimes" and "high misdemeanors" which, from my reading of historical documents, is less about criminal lawbreaking and goes more to the abuses of power and crimes and misdemeanors (ie great and small abuses) that violate the rule of law and the constitution, even in the absence of a statutory violation.
Impeachment should not be an unusual event. Look at the current cabinet.
DrEd
I'm not arguing with you ..... however....
The House of Representatives IS the "standing committee on impeachments that constantly polices high administration officials for bribery, treason and "high" crimes and misdemeanors" ... and I agree they need to be replaced. I always thought that bills from congress should go through the same jury process that murderers go through before going to the presidents desk and that it is "they" ... a random jury of his peers ... who should decide if the president is to be over ridden.
As a matter of fact ... I would argue that a third house be added to congress ....A "supreme council" if you will ... A body made up of a few randomly picked registered voters from each state who are summoned just like any other jury would be and protected as such and granted the powers there in. This body would have a shorter term and be immune to the problems we associate to long drawn out elections full of corruption and abuse as well as the mind eroding effects of FOX NEWS. This ... grand, grand jury would decide if the bills being passed are worth the paper they are written on. This is the body where the bills would be scrutinized ... since apparently .... TWO full houses of congress don't have the "Time" to do it.