Debate Avoids War and Police Outside Debate Charge, Injure, Arrest Veterans
Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2008-10-16 12:01.
From Huffington Post
HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- Pandemonium erupted outside Hofstra University tonight at around 8pm, an hour before the final presidential debate of the 2008 campaign was scheduled to begin there, when mounted police charged protesters and spectators.
Six people were reportedly arrested and three injured. Protesters included a contingent of the group Iraq Veterans Against the War. Members of the group intended to submit questions to the the candidates but never had the chance. Local police on horseback drove the protesters away from the university's David S Mack Sports and Exhibition Complex, where the debate was held, knocking some to the ground and in at least one case trampling them.
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This may sound trivial, BUT...
I believe that the way to start reeling in the Police Fascists is for Hollywood to STOP putting cops on a pedestal and showing them with NO BOUNDARIES. Movies MUST be made demoninizing the bastards and showing them for what they are: THUGS!
This country is celebrity and movie and fantasy based. (Worshiping celebrities is paramount to many where caring for their fellow man is a once a year thing labeled Christmas.) As long as these brutal bastards and their techniques are shown as a positive, humorous, or "heroic", then they will continue.
I would love to see Michael Moore do a documentary in his style called "Black and BLUE" derived from cop cams, victim interviews, and eyewitness stories.
YOU OUT THERE, MIKE?!
"A country without a Soul is destined for Hell...on Earth."
The Czar's Cavalry, minus the sabers
Hurrah for YouTube! Hopefully there legal observors with night-capable equipment recording this. Thanks to people with courage and cameras, these atrocities are becoming more difficult to hide.
IVAW Update Iraq War Veterans Arrested outside debate.
More images of this protest, courtesy NYC and Chicago-IMC
[ http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/84247/index.php ]
Update: Iraq War Veterans Arrested While Attempting to Deliver Questions to Obama and McCain
- Iraq Veterans Against the War [ http://ivaw.org/ ]
HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. One hour before the final presidential debate of the 2008 campaign, fourteen members of Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) marched in formation to Hofstra University to present questions to the candidates. IVAW had requested permission from debate moderator Bob Schieffer to ask their questions during the debate, but received no response.
The contingent of veterans in dress and combat uniforms attempted to enter the building where the debate was to be held in order to ask questions about poor veterans' healthcare and supporting war resisters of the candidates, but were turned back by police. IVAW members at the front of the formation were immediately arrested, and others were pushed back into the crowd by police on horseback. Several members were injured, including former Army Sergeant Nick Morgan who suffered a broken cheekbone when he was trampled by police horses before being arrested.
"Neither of the candidates has shown real support for service members and veterans. We came here to try and have serious questions answered, questions that we as veterans of the Iraq war have a right to ask, but instead we were arrested. We will continue to ask these questions no matter who is elected. We believe that the time has come to end this war and bring our troops home, and we will be pushing for that no matter what happens in this election." said Jason Lemieux, a former Sergeant in the US Marine Corps who served three tours in Iraq, and member of IVAW.
A total of ten veterans were arrested during the action, including Matthis Chiroux (Army Sergeant), Kristofer Goldsmith (Army Sergeant), Adam Kokesh (Marine Sergeant), Mike Spinato, Geoff Millard (Army Sergeant), Marlisa Grogan (Marine Captain), Nathan Peld (Navy, 1998-2004), Nick Morgan (Army Sergeant), James Gilligan (Marine Corps, 6 years) and Jose Vasquez (Army & Army Reserves, 1992-2007).
Watch Democracy Now! coverage of the action
# Iraq Veterans Against the War (IVAW) was founded in July of 2004 to allow servicemen and women from all branches of the military a chance to come together and speak out against an illegal, unjust and unwinnable occupation. IVAW currently has over 1,300 members in 49 states, Canada and on military bases in the United States and overseas. To learn more about IVAW you can visit our website at www.ivaw.org.