Jonathan Turley fears Dems will let alleged 'Bush crimes' stay buried forever
By David Edwards and Muriel Kane, Raw Story
George W. Bush has been more sparing than most presidents in handing out pardons, but it is starting to seem that the conclusion of his term in office may be marked by a generous use of the pardon power to let members of his own administration off the hook. What's more, constitutional lawyer Jonathan Turley believes that the Democrats will let him get away with it.
"The Democrats are trying very hard to show ... that they're not going to re-open these issues and that the Bush crimes will remain buried for all time," Turley told MSNBC's Keith Olbermann on Tuesday. "It would start a new administration on the same level that George Bush left it. And that's a very sad thing."
Turley was particularly concerned about a recent statement by law professor Cass Sunstein, an Obama adviser, that only "egregious" crimes by Bush officials should be prosecuted by an Obama administration.
"We've had eight years of moral relativism and the avoidance of legal process," stated Turley. "And to start a major campaign with the suggestion that we're going to distinguish between egregious and non-egregious crimes promises more of the same."
"Did we just see accountability go out the window for good?" Olbermann asked Turley.
"That would probably wrap it up," Turley replied.
"There are very few obligations that a president has to do under the Constitution, but one of them is not to violate the laws that he is supposed to enforce," explained Turley. "And what really concerns me about Cass Sunstein's statement is that I don't know what a non-egregious crime by a president or by an administration might be. I think that all crimes committed by the government, particularly the president, are egregious."
Turley further pointed to Speaker Nancy Pelosi's refusal to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president, saying, "I don't understand why some Democrats can't just simply accept a very straightforward proposition, that we'll prosecute any crimes committed by this administration, an Obama administration, a McCain administration. Because they're crimes. They're all egregious."
Sunstein's remarks followed a story in last week's New York Times, which reported that "several members of the conservative legal community in Washington said in interviews that they hoped Mr. Bush would issue such [pre-emptive] pardons. ... They said people who carried out the president’s orders should not be exposed even to the risk of an investigation and expensive legal bills."
Former Reagan Justice Department official Victoria Toensing -- recently best known for arguing that no crime was committed in the outing of former CIA officer Valerie Plame -- told the Times flatly, "The president should pre-empt any long-term investigations."
Turley noted that the Bush administration doesn't seem to care whether pre-emptive pardons would be an implicit admission of guilt. "I think this would be the ultimate and final show of contempt by this president for the rule of law," he concluded. "I think this president would find it very consistent to say, 'I can tell prople to commit crimes and then I can pardon them for it.' What is very troubling is that there appear to be Democrats on the other side who would welcome that."
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"several members of the conservative legal community in Washington said in interviews that they hoped Mr. Bush would issue such [pre-emptive] pardons. ... They said people who carried out the president’s orders should not be exposed even to the risk of an investigation and expensive legal bills."
Let's see if they're this magnanimous at the end of Obama's term.
pardons
They should all be barred from any paid public service position for even considering or suggesting that wrongdoing go--not unpunished--UNPROSECUTED!
Real Change is public takeover--no lobbyists, nor corporations (nonhuman entities) and corporate money in government, increase taxes and guarantee quality public services for everybody.
We need a progressive income tax so that executives will not be overpaid. Money will be reinvested in companies.
Anybody who doesn't like it can go live in Mexico.
could Hitler have pardoned himself?
They preemptively invaded a country, the SUPREME INTERNATIONAL CRIME, with cries of defending the "Homeland." They allowed the use of "torture." Labeling dissenters "unpatriotic," they granted the executive dictatorial power.
And now, these EGREGIOUS Nazi atrocities (no exaggeration), are to be dismissed because the enablers were simply following orders?
Too bad Obama and Sunstein weren't in office after WWII. Instead of wasting all that time and money on the Nuremberg Trials, we could have "worked with" the defeated Nazis in a grand spirit of UNITY.
A Letter To Attorney General Mukasey For Bush Indictment And....
A Letter to Attorney General Michael Mukasey sent to him for appropriate action on Veterans Day 11-11-08 at
AskDOJ@usdoj.us
Michael Mukasey
Attorney General
United States of America
THIS is to report to you a murder crime of heinous proportions and the alleged perpetrator is still at large posing a continuing danger to our community and our nation.
Over 4,100 American soldiers and over 1,000,000 Iraqis were killed in George W. Bush’s war against Iraq on “false pretenses”, his “BIG LIES”, which are “unlawful deaths”, each and every one, requiring that George W. Bush be “indicted” and “prosecuted” on “murder and conspiracy to commit murder” charges, as noted and documented by renowned prosecutor and best selling author Vincent Bugliosi in his stunning, best selling true crime book “The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder”, Vanguard Press.
THIS IS TO IMPLORE YOU to indict, prosecute, and charge George W. Bush with one or more of four charges: conspiracy to commit crimes alleged in other counts; crimes against peace; war crimes; or crimes against humanity.
SPECIFIC CHARGES include the murders of over 4,100 American soldiers and over 1,000,000 Iraqis, pursuing an aggressive war, the brutality of the invasion, occupation, and detention centers, and the use of illegal weapons.
Sincerely,
Reference:
1. In October 1946 the victorious Allies executed ten former Nazi leaders in Nuremberg, following their trial for war crimes. Each defendant was charged with one or more of four charges: conspiracy to commit crimes alleged in other counts; crimes against peace; war crimes; or crimes against humanity, United States Chief Prosecutor Robert Jackson presiding, Link, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSJcXPCxlzI
And With "Mr. Mossad" As "Chief-Spy-Of-Staff", 9-11 TRUTH . . .
And with "Mr. Mossad" as "Chief-Spy-Of-Staff", 9-11 TRUTH will be buried far beneath all those other BushCo Crimes, kidz . . .
(clipped headline and article)
"Mossad Spy To Run The White House - 'RAHM EMANUEL WILL KICK ASS & TAKE NAMES' boasted a Jewish supporter of Emanuel to the Chicago Sun Times on November 6 2008, referring to Emanuel’s role as Obama’s White House Chief of Staff. But the Zionist Jew, Rahm Israel Emanuel, who is a dual Israeli/US citizen, will do much more than 'kick ass & take names.' Emanuel will act as an effective spy in the White House for the Mossad, Israel’s intelligence agency. With Emanuel running the White House, Mossad HQ will enjoy an unprecedented direct flow of America’s highest level national security information."
(full story)
http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/mossad-spy-to-run-t...
. . . or at least, they'll try, kidz!!!
"New 9-11 Videos Released"
http://www.penttbom.com/
"'Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information.'
-- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11."
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/spyring.html
Keep On Rockin', kidz!!!! . . .;-)
"We are not afraid
We are not afraid
We are not afraid some day
Oh, deep in my heart
I do believe
We shall overcome some day"
- "We Shall Overcome" by Charles Tindley
peace.
Frederick's baaaaaaaaack ! ;-D
I was wondering when Rahm Emanuel would draw you out of the woodwork, glad to see you back "kickin' ass", Fred. I've read that Rahm gave up his dual citizenship when he was 18, but I'd really like to see that in writing . Even then , I still wouldn't trust his allegiance to Americans.
IMPEACH BUSHCO & RICO PNAC/FARA AIPAC...PNAC is Bush/Cheney's "Helter Skelter" !
UNITE IN SOLIDARITY !!!
Not That Black and White.
This is what WIKIPEDIA says about Emanuel Dual Citizenship:
Emanuel's father was an Israeli immigrant and Rahm had dual Israeli-U.S. citizenship, but relinquished his Israeli citizenship when he turned 18.[25] He did not serve in the Israeli army, but was a civilian volunteer assisting the Israel Defense Forces for a short time during the 1991 Gulf War, repairing truck brakes in one of Israel's northern bases.[26][27]
Regarding 9-11 what I know is that ISRAEL was one of the countries who made several warnings to the US gov even they removed all of their citizens from the WTC buildings.
Why the US (Neocon regime) did nothing?
Because they WANTED, NEEDED and expected the Big Show to GO ON.
I don't see behind all JEWS a NEOCON supporter. It is not that black and white.
Most of jews want a double state solution.
On the other hand the EXPERTS say he will not be a key player on foreign policy.
By the way: I am not a ZIONIST supporter.
And i support the 9-11 truth mov.
So, we should just accept it and move on?
Then they'll be back to do it again in the future.
Screw Turley! Screw Olbermann! We must keep the fight going. Send them each a copy of Vincent Bugliosi's book. You can learn how a state's attorney general and local prosecutor can take on the task.