Harry Reid Says Cheney Tortured, But Proposes Letting Him Off
Christiane Brown interviews Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in this audio clip.
Reid says torture has been committed, but that the top priority should be delaying, and that certain people just shouldn't be prosecuted, even if that means failing to follow the law. Brown is brilliant and relentless. Reid is as pathetic as you'd think he'd be when confronted by a real journalist. Reid wants nothing done until November 2009 when the Senate Intelligence Committee produces its report, after which he's open to starting more committee investigations, panels, or commissions, but not necessarily prosecutions.
Here's a key segment:
Reid: Listen, if you ask me my opinion.
Brown: Yeah.
Reid: What went on, waterboarding, torture, of course it was. I don't want to be drowned. I I think that as afraid of - as afraid of - as afraid as I am with water, frankly probably you could drown me and I would confess to a lot of things that weren't true....
Brown: Isn't it the responsibility of the United States to enforce criminal law if it appears that war crimes have occured?
Reid: No matter how I personally feel about torture, I think that we as you've indicated that we are a nation of law. And that's why we have to get the facts and then have people render legal decisions which certainly don't take very long, render opinion as to whether or not what was done was wrong, illegal, immoral, and you know all the other issues.
Brown: Well let me ask you, Senator Reid, you've seen the evidence come forward. We've heard Dick Cheney himself say he waterboarded and he'd waterboard again.... Isn't that therfore an obvious and admitted crime right there in the face of the American people?
Reid: Something everyone has to weigh is this, we're a nation of laws and no one can dispute that, but I think what we have to, the hurdle we have to get over is whether we want to go after people like Cheney. That's a decision that has to be made....
Brown: ...Isn't it our obligation if he's violated the law ... ?
Reid: There are a lot of decisions that are made that are right that may not be absolutely totally within the framework of law. For example with President Nixon....
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Reid's position?
That Harry Reid doesn't want to prosecute torture is no surprise, he knew about it and did nothing. Nancy pelosi is in the same situation. That is why they blocked all attempts at impeachment. They want to find a way to investigate themselves in secret meetings, but the story is too big...they cannot stop it now. The USA must investigate, because the rest of the world is rightfully commencing to do so. America will be seen as a rogue nation otherwise, and any restoration of credibility will not happen.
When Obama gave his press conference last week, he clearly stated waterboarding is torture. The media immediately reported Obama stopped short of saying it was a crime. Fact: Torture is a crime by definition. It is a word like murder,it is not necessary to say it is a crime. The word alone denotes that fact.
I often see that Obama is playing chess while the media and people around him are playing with a few of the pieces. Obama threw the entire question of investigation to his AG, he will stay above the fray as he did with issues during his campaign.
Today, Cheney announced he had ordered torture, he has played directly into Obama's hands. Obama's administration said today after Cheney's foolish remarks that there was no point in not releasing all the info now. Cheney has made himself the target. With a 13% approval rate, he is as hated as any person on this earth.
Marilyn Gjerdrum
Today is John Ashcroft's birthday
He would not fly commercial in 2001.
I immediately suspected we were being lied to after Tora Bora. I am sure that our congressional leaders knew more than they reveal about this charade. They are all guilty
and I am sure that Cheney is just giving us the finger.
Kucinich is not included in my rant, I remember him as mayor of Cleveland and he had it right back then.
EW
"EVERY gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."--President Dwight D. Eisenhower, April 16, 1953
Reid Turning U.S. Into 3rd World Banana Republic
Marilyn, you are especially right about "rogue nation" part. I read an article which said Reid's people (or gang) took busloads of illegal aliens over to the driver license place, in Nevada, and got them all I.D.'s so they could vote for Hillary in the primaries.
Number one, if this is true, it shows a complete, flagrant, disregard for the very laws Reid is supposed to pass and uphold! He is among those who create these laws, but can't seem to follow them.
One would wonder who gave Reid, for example, the right to wholesale our American Sovereignty and give it away. Our neighborhoods will all soon be like the ones mentioned lately in the press in Chicago where the children and teens have been slaughtered lately, just a third rate, third world banana republic torture country full of death squads.
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DonP that you carefully read the last statement above by Senator Reed. This statement in and of itself exemplifies the attitudes and actions of all of our leaders during the last eight years. Was the war legal? Is torture legal? Were the war crimes committed in Iraq and Afganistan legal? Were the actions taken by the Fed and Treasury to give away 12 trillion dollars legal? The answer is a resounding no to each of these. Will the American people demand with sufficient vigor the prosecution of the guilty and the banishment of the complacent and complicent government we currently have? Again the answer must be a resounding no. The U.S. and the American people have lost their moral compass and I fear will never recover from this last nine years.
Legal replacing right or wrong
I fear you are absolutely right.
Thanks
Marilyn Gjerdrum